Just a few Points of interest and questions from the Rabbenu Bachya for you.Literal. And this is clear from the parallel Ibn Ezra. But a fascinating Rabbenu Bachya and Ibn Ezra, so let us explore it.
1) First in כא, יט in his discussion on doctors he says only healing external wounds. Is that literal or does it mean Physical versus Psychological?
The pasuk states:
'ורפא ירפא' - כל רפואה בבשר ודם לא מצאנוהו בכל הכתובים כי אם בדגש וכו', אבל בהקב"ה מצינו ברפה וכו', והטעם בזה כי הרפואה בבשר ודם אינה אלא על ידי צער וטורח והוא שיסבול הסם או המשקה המר, אבל רפואה של הקב"ה בנחת אין שם צער כלל כי ברכת ה' היא תעשיר ולא יוסיף עצב עמה. ומה שאמרו חז"ל 'ורפא ירפא' מכאן שנתנה רשות לרופא לרפאות לא אמרו אלא במכה שבחוץ שהכתוב מדבר בה, אבל חולי מבפנים אין זה תלוי ביד הרופא אלא ביד הרופא כל בשר אשר בידו נפש כל חי.
To explain this, and expand upon it. He first points out that when people heal, there is always a dagesh (chazak) in the word רפא. For example, the above pasuk. Or also in Yirmeyahu 51:
tzaar, but Hashem heals without this. Thus, for example:
יד רְפָאֵנִי יְהוָה וְאֵרָפֵא, הוֹשִׁיעֵנִי וְאִוָּשֵׁעָה: כִּי תְהִלָּתִי, אָתָּה. | 14 Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved; for Thou art my praise. |
However, here is a counter-example, with a dagesh chazak. In II Melachim 2:21:
My impression was that Rabbenu Bachya did not necessarily mean that it could never have a dagesh when Hashem is involved. Rather, that specifically by basar vadam, it will always be with the dagesh.
How does Rabbenu Bachya divine the meaning of this dagesh? I would suggest that his midrashic motivation is:
- In general, with the dagesh it is with a more intensive form. Compare שבר with and without a dagesh chazak -- break vs. shatter.
- And even the רפה form (namely, without a dagesh chazak) means relaxed.
- Also, the root רפא means to loosen, relax. Indeed, this is true for other languages as well. See disease as dis+ease. Without the dagesh, it more closely resembles רפא as relaxed. Add the dagesh, and perhaps sever that connection somewhat.
In the pasuk in Mishpatim, see how וְרַפֹּא יְרַפֵּא is translated by JPS: and shall cause him to be thoroughly healed. The duplication is what sparked the word "thoroughly," but the context plus the dagesh sparked the "cause him to be," rather that "and shall heal him."
Now, about this:
מה שאמרו חז"ל 'ורפא ירפא' מכאן שנתנה רשות לרופא לרפאות לא אמרו אלא במכה שבחוץ שהכתוב מדבר בה, אבל חולי מבפנים אין זה תלוי ביד הרופא אלא ביד הרופא כל בשר אשר בידו נפש כל חי
Thus, Chazal in Bava Kamma give permission to heal, or rather say that Hashem has given permission to heal. But Rabbenu Bachya restricts this to external rather than internal maladies. He is not assuring psychologists.
How do I know? Compare with Ibn Ezra, who says the same thing:
ורפא ירפא -
לאות שנתן רשות לרופאים לרפא המכות והפצעים שיראו בחוץ, רק כל חלי שהוא בפנים בגוף ביד השם לרפאתו.
וכן כתוב: כי הוא יכאיב ויחבש.
וכתוב באסא: וגם בחליו לא דרש את ה' כי אם ברופאים.
והנה הכתוב הפריש, כי לא אמר ורָפוֹא יִרְפָּא מן הבנין הקל. רק ורַפֹּא יְרַפֵא שהוא מהבנין הכבד.
ועוד אפרש זה היטב בפרשה הזאת.
וחכמינו קבלו דברים אחרים עם אלה שניהם. כאשר קבלו בשמים עם קטורת סמים. ואינם כתובים.
יח כִּי הוּא יַכְאִיב וְיֶחְבָּשׁ; יִמְחַץ, וְיָדָו תִּרְפֶּינָה. | 18 For He maketh sore, and bindeth up; He woundeth, and His hands make whole. |
King Asa it indeed criticized for consulting with doctors and not turning towards Hashem. In II Divrei Hayamim 16:2:
How this is internal, I don't know. But perhaps we are speaking of disease as opposed to injury. So we are not discussing psychological ailments here.
How to deal with this pasuk in Neviim, and this world-view, may indeed be troubling. Though one might give a teretz that he only saw them as his hope, instead of also turning to Hashem.
One way to resolve these two contrasting ideas is to say that the one permitted is for external injuries, while the one forbidden is for internal injuries and sickness. Indeed, the pasuk in Mishpatim is where one person smote the other, such that there was an external injury. So this might have been the motivation for making this particular distinction.
(A digression: giving reshut for the physician to heal I would consider to be pashut peshat. Hashem would not instruct one to heal another, or pay for him to be healed (note the causative form) is healing another person is forbidden.)
As is mentioned in the critical edition of Rabbenu Bachya from Mossad Harav Kook, the sefer Mateh Moshe takes this to task, pointing out cases in the gemara of Tannaim and Amoraim healing. Thus, in Bava Metzia 85b:
Samuel Yarhina'ah 20{=the Babylonian Amora Shmuel} was Rabbi's physician. Now, Rabbi having contracted an eye disease, Samuel offered to bathe it with a lotion, but he said, 'I cannot bear it.' 'Then I will apply an ointment to it,' he said. 'This too I cannot bear,' he objected. So he placed a phial of chemicals under his pillow, and he was healed.21 Rabbi was most anxious22 to ordain him, but the opportunity was lacking.This {eye disease} would seem to be considered an internal disease, and yet the Tanna went to a physician, which should be prohibited as to Assa, if were indeed a problem, and the Amora actually healed him. And the Talmud actually records many remedies to internal diseases. Even if they are nonsense, and not to be trusted, as per Rambam, they still intended them to be used. So, as Mateh Moshe says, chas veshalom to say this and malign our great rabbis!
It is a good question, and I wonder at this -- whether they intended it as halacha, or simply to solve some internal Biblical contradiction. I would guess more about Rabbenu Bachya that he intended it as halacha. But then, they are offering it as a clarification of this statement of Chazal, so perhaps it is clarification rather than contradiction. How would they resolve it with these other gemaras? I don't know. And I suspect it is not lehalacha.
While on the topic, since the suggestion was raised that this prohibits psychology, I will note a troubling guest-post on the Daas Torah blog. An excerpt:
There are two parts to your question, one is halakhic and the other is haskafic. However, the hashkafa has to be settled before we move on to the halacha.It is troubling that such determinations of metzius, which belong in the realm of those capable of assessing the metzius, are being made on hashkafic bases by people who likely do not know the science and the data. Certainly people have been treated successfully by drugs proscribed by psychiatrists. And psychologists have also been successful. There are ways of measuring this. Half of psak is knowledge of halacha. The other half is an accurate understanding of metzius. And if ideological concerns get in the way, then the result is terribly flawed psak. As the famous saying by George Fuechsel goes, "Garbage in, garbage out."
For instance you want a guilty party to have to make some kind of reparations for mental health care. You are assuming that mental health care is a valid form of healing and that it is in line with Torah values. Take for instance this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2G4_CeMCY
I post that because I know the Rosh Yeshiva he learned that from.
Then there is the perspective of others such as R' Mordechai Goldstein Shlit"a, who claims that psychology/psychiatry can diagnose accurate problems but is useless to resolve or heal them. He claims that is the shitta of the Yeshiva where he learned(Chafetz Haim), and has passed that on to each of his students at his own Yeshiva. Furthermore each of his former students that have started their own Yeshivas(at least each of the one's I have spent any time at) hold the same opinion. They have passed this on to their students, some of whom are Dayyanim that will hear cases.
Here, by the way, is the ignorant video linked to above. I could debunk it if need be -- but don't have the patience. (For starters, Freud is not the same as modern psychology/psychology, which rejects him; and he had oral cancer causing him much pain.) This is scary and sad:
2 comments:
The fellow in the video forgot something:
Freud committed suicide on YK that was on Shabbos!!! He wanted to see how many issurim he could get at once!
(OK, this was written in jest. I don't think Freud planned the day to be an act against G-d. But it was on Shabbos :-))
I disagree Josh. There is much evidence that medication can be harmful. There are many psychologists and counselors who are beginning to caution against meds. Psychology is going through its issues and transformation nowadays and it is clear that it is not necessarily a tool that can be relied on. Many people believe that there can be another approach.
May I suggest emunah.
Good post otherwise.
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