tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post668731988659922515..comments2024-03-05T21:22:43.426-05:00Comments on parshablog: Noisy shoes and tznius, followupjoshwaxmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03516171362038454070noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-90830441144767458512009-05-18T06:18:00.000-04:002009-05-18T06:18:00.000-04:00thanks. yes, that source was discussed (and dismis...thanks. yes, that source was discussed (and dismissed, IMHO), in the post linked to at the top, to which this post was a followup. See <A HREF="http://parsha.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-would-someone-recommend-rubber.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>:<br /><br />http://parsha.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-would-someone-recommend-rubber.html<br /><br />kt,<br />joshjoshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-3792664111846571062009-05-18T06:16:00.000-04:002009-05-18T06:16:00.000-04:00Isaiah 3:16
טז וַיֹּאמֶר יְהוָה, יַעַן כִּי גָבְ...Isaiah 3:16<br /><br />טז וַיֹּאמֶר יְהוָה, יַעַן כִּי גָבְהוּ בְּנוֹת צִיּוֹן, וַתֵּלַכְנָה נטוות (נְטוּיוֹת) גָּרוֹן, וּמְשַׂקְּרוֹת עֵינָיִם; הָלוֹךְ וְטָפֹף תֵּלַכְנָה, וּבְרַגְלֵיהֶם תְּעַכַּסְנָה. 16 Moreover the LORD said: Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched-forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet;Anon Sahadeinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-20646283951009941682009-05-16T22:04:00.000-04:002009-05-16T22:04:00.000-04:00I don't know, and can't know at present.
Perhaps ...I don't know, and can't know at present.<br /><br />Perhaps not at all. But if so, then:<br />1) see <A HREF="http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2007/02/07/knowing-our-limits/" REL="nofollow">here</A>"Some prominent spokesmen have said that the z’chus of yishmael is tznius and that am yisrael needs to “Fight” back on that ground by copying them in their area of strength."<br />I have seen this elsewhere.<br /><br />2) He might have been exposed to it from British Muslims, or by news articles of this requirement in Afghanistan, which might have been coupled with his own distaste for the clicking sound of women in high-heels.<br /><br />3) Sometimes these things spread organically, and culturally. Especially if it first manifested itself in some Jews from Arabic countries.<br /><br />But I don't know.<br /><br />kt,<br />joshjoshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-64242486998531753172009-05-16T18:28:00.000-04:002009-05-16T18:28:00.000-04:00I can't imagine Rabbi Falk is studying the tzniyus...I can't imagine Rabbi Falk is studying the tzniyus chumras of the Islamic community. If the shoe thing did make its way from there, how do you think that happened- and what do you think is next?Olivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-65973303770819248062009-05-14T18:48:00.000-04:002009-05-14T18:48:00.000-04:00thanks. it seems rabbi falk is also not in favor o...thanks. it seems rabbi falk is also not in favor of shoes that make noise. as mentioned in that previous post, he mentions it, but on a page not accessible to me.<br /><br />kt,<br />joshjoshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-84707821082715966622009-05-14T18:01:00.000-04:002009-05-14T18:01:00.000-04:00A slightly less radical chumra can be found in muc...A slightly less radical chumra can be found in much of the more right-wing tzniut literature: restrictions on painting toenails and exposing toes. I believe that I read about this chumra in R' Falk's Oz v'Hadar Levusha. <br /><br />Not to get into too much of a tangent, but the entire discourse on tzniut requires a serious return to the original sources, in particular the prohibitions of shok (thigh?), hair and singing voice in Berachot 24a. I think you might be right in claiming that the shoe chumra is of non-Jewish origin.Rob Golderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864343135133758650noreply@blogger.com