tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post5992874205049108092..comments2024-03-05T21:22:43.426-05:00Comments on parshablog: Is 1/10 of the Israelite population as judges plausible?!joshwaxmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03516171362038454070noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-20571609107041800822011-01-22T21:15:35.525-05:002011-01-22T21:15:35.525-05:00I think I misread the Ibn Ezra's in my previo...I think I misread the Ibn Ezra's in my previous comment but cannot see what I wrote, as it is awaiting moderator approval.<br /> <br />Interpretation which he rejects due to dikduk considerations<br /><br />1) 1160 (like Shmlomo explained above)<br /><br />2) 678 (I'm not sure how to arrive at this number)<br /><br /><br />3)11,110 (I'm not sure how to arrive at this number)Arinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-18614826063883206542011-01-22T21:05:09.354-05:002011-01-22T21:05:09.354-05:00Shlomo
Re your point #2
The Ibn Ezra rejects th...Shlomo <br /><br />Re your point #2<br /><br />The Ibn Ezra rejects this (without explanation) as well as other interpretations, in the Ibn Ezra Hakatzar on this pasuk.<br /><br />"There are those who say that there were altogether 1160, and others say that there were 780, and others say that there were 11,110. And I do not want to elaborate to mention this calculation, because the didkduk of the language will disprove them. And the truth is what the Kadmonim said - that the princes were 78600...<br /><br />I have 2 questions.<br /><br /> 1)I am not sure where the numbers 780 and 1,110 comes from. Anyone have an idea? <br /><br />2) Which interpretations does the dikduk disprove, and how does it do so?Arinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-66918359254871186302011-01-22T20:47:49.180-05:002011-01-22T20:47:49.180-05:00Interestingly, Ibn Ezra in his Peirush Hakatzar em...Interestingly, Ibn Ezra in his Peirush Hakatzar embraces the Midrash Chazal which Rashi quotes.Arinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-37659207462159128842010-02-08T16:31:31.811-05:002010-02-08T16:31:31.811-05:00Two ideas:
1. "Leaders over tens" are p...Two ideas:<br /><br />1. "Leaders over tens" are presumably leaders over 10 adult males, thus 30-40 people overall - a somewhat larger number. (Though still, we'd have to posit a somewhat different role for judges than we have today. Something like, lehavdil, a mafia don who settles all disputes in the extended family.)<br /><br />2. Perhaps "sarei asarot" means not "leaders over tens", but something like "leaders of whom there are about 10". If so, there are just 1160 judges. If "asarot" means multiple tens, the number is still under 10000.Shlomonoreply@blogger.com