tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post226452143849301562..comments2024-03-05T21:22:43.426-05:00Comments on parshablog: Parallels Between The Incident of Tamar and Amnon, And Parshat Vayeshevjoshwaxmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03516171362038454070noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-50011753715622035152008-12-17T00:06:00.000-05:002008-12-17T00:06:00.000-05:00I like what you are saying tmeishar.I like what you are saying tmeishar.Yehudahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13012748301457819738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-30838700561859631232008-12-16T20:38:00.000-05:002008-12-16T20:38:00.000-05:00Interesting. This is hardly a fully-developed thou...Interesting. <BR/>This is hardly a fully-developed thought, but perhaps we should also compare the role of Yaakov as the head of a new nation to the role of David as the head of a new monarchy. Maybe the author of Sefer Shmuel is drawing on motifs that we are already familiar with to suggest that just as the skirmishes in Sefer Bereishit end up having more significance than simple sibling rivalry, the narratives in Shmuel are also vital to the nature of the developing monarchy. <BR/>Just a thought, I obviously need to develop it more...tmeishar:https://www.blogger.com/profile/10834102883810511507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-66987159267009656482008-12-16T10:15:00.000-05:002008-12-16T10:15:00.000-05:00The parallels start way back at the end of chapter...The parallels start way back at the end of chapter 8 (appointing his sons to positions of power - see the Ralbag's 43rd toelet). At the beginning of chapter 11 (David and BatSheva) David is described as being Yosheiv (reminds you of Yaakov where his troubles began - see the famous Rashi). There is also the repetition of the verb shalach and malakhim. And of course the incident between Amnon and Tamar follows on the heels of David's sin with BatSheva. I am actually giving shiur on the wider context of the sin of David and BatSheva. I give a number of sources and a link to the audio of the shiurim on my blog (<A HREF="yehudathoughts.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Yehuda's Thoughts</A>)Yehudahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13012748301457819738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-80532480784017834082008-12-16T08:35:00.000-05:002008-12-16T08:35:00.000-05:00thanks. good points.thanks. good points.joshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-41717235129044969912008-12-15T19:48:00.000-05:002008-12-15T19:48:00.000-05:00As well as:1) the presence of "rei'im" Chirah and ...As well as:<BR/>1) the presence of "rei'im" Chirah and Yonadav<BR/>2) one character (Yosef and Yonadav) asking another (the baker/butler and Amnon) why they look upset<BR/>3) the parallel between the requests of eishes Potifar and Amnon to Yosef and Tamar<BR/>4) the fact that both instances of tearing the garments were over false reports (in David's case, it was that he was told that *all* of the brothers were killed, not just Amnon).Josh M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14414532577328945154noreply@blogger.com