tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post113475980146602320..comments2024-03-05T21:22:43.426-05:00Comments on parshablog: parshat Vayeitzei/Vayishlach: 12 Boys and Only 1 Girl?!joshwaxmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03516171362038454070noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-1165594103103055582006-12-08T11:08:00.000-05:002006-12-08T11:08:00.000-05:00The study on conception is interesting, but it is ...The study on conception is interesting, but it is certainly not conclusive. You need a larger percentage difference, I think, to really make it significant. I would not connect it to the Imahos b/c, according to Chazal, they were really barren (not just 'sticky') and had to undergo a miraculous change before they were able to conceive at all.<BR/>On the pshat level (though not Rashi's pshuto shel mikara), I would think that no duaghters other than Dina were born. In any case sister marriage was assur to a ben Noach, except, possibly to a half sister, so each shevet would have had to marry another one's twin -- not his own. the fact that Yehudah first married a woman of Canaaan and then Tamar would indicate that he did not marry a sister, and perhaps one can extrapolate from that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-1134766526300367132005-12-16T15:55:00.000-05:002005-12-16T15:55:00.000-05:00indeed, Rivkah the granddaughter might well be con...indeed, Rivkah the granddaughter might well be considered the +1 daughter = 13joshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06958375916391742462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-1134765791606438342005-12-16T15:43:00.000-05:002005-12-16T15:43:00.000-05:00the + 1 daughter bit, for a total of 13, is intere...the + 1 daughter bit, for a total of 13, is interesting.joshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06958375916391742462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-1134765717721658492005-12-16T15:41:00.000-05:002005-12-16T15:41:00.000-05:00And don't forget Nachor. He also hade 12 children....And don't forget Nachor. He also hade 12 children. See <A HREF="http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0122.htm" REL="nofollow">Bereishit 22:20-24</A>:<BR/>The bit with Rivkah being born to Betuel is a digression (and perhaps why the entire genealogical list was mentioned), but we see that Nachor has:<BR/>from Milkah: Uz his first-born, and Buz his brother, and Kemuel the father of Aram, and Chesed, and Hazo, and Pildash, and Jidlaph, and Bethuel.<BR/>from Reuma: Tebah, and Gaham, and Tahash, and Maacah.<BR/><BR/>It is likely that all these groups of 12 from that generation played a large part in the midrash that Rivkah was to have 12 children, though the explicit deduction is from duplicate parallel language when Rivkah consults Hashem, or from the gematria of "lama *zeh* {=12} anochi"joshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06958375916391742462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-1134764906185136482005-12-16T15:28:00.000-05:002005-12-16T15:28:00.000-05:00I find it interesting that Yishma‘eil also has exa...I find it interesting that Yishma‘eil also has exactly 12 sons and 1 daughter (that we are told about). And ‘Eisav has 13 tribes (some are children, some are grandchildren) descended from him... maybe one of those is a daughter as well, although she isn't identified as such...Steg (dos iz nit der šteg)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07694556690190505030noreply@blogger.com