tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post1120856753804835211..comments2024-03-05T21:22:43.426-05:00Comments on parshablog: The Sheitel Displayjoshwaxmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03516171362038454070noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-3056853073046336722008-01-28T18:43:00.000-05:002008-01-28T18:43:00.000-05:00Chaim, thanks for clarifying the situation - but t...Chaim, thanks for clarifying the situation - but the fact is that there is a Yeshiva nearby. I'm not going to judge him, but if I were faced with a similar situation, I would hope that I would try to accommodate my neighbors as much as possible, especially when faced with a Safek Lifnei Iveir and a Vadai "Et Hashem Elokecha Tira - Lerabot Talmidei Hachamim". Unless, he has a Posek that tells him that he's not obligated to remove them -then, he's off the hook from those 2 Issurim, but still isn't very neighborly.<BR/><BR/>Josh, at first I thought you were talking about your aunt. :-) I had to do a Google search to see who you were talking about, and I now see what you mean. Wearing a burka is absolutely the opposite of what Tseni'ut is all about. She's drawing more attention to herself that way. That's just ridiculous.yaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08179304707239865515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-37316562051197768022008-01-28T15:25:00.000-05:002008-01-28T15:25:00.000-05:00yaak:does this include Rabbanit Keren?yaak:<BR/>does this include Rabbanit Keren?joshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-51442829705442436772008-01-28T15:24:00.000-05:002008-01-28T15:24:00.000-05:00bray:I stand corrected on that count. I reread the...bray:<BR/>I stand corrected on that count. I reread the letter and saw that he is a chareidi *from* Bnei Brak. (assuming I am reading it correctly)<BR/><BR/>Which perhaps gives a different reading to "this is not Bnei Brak." Perhaps he does not like the strictures imposed in Bnei Brak and this is why he left those environs. It is difficult to get into someone's head. I am not quite ready to accept your proffered explanation, and not accepting RAS as his Daas Torah need not mean all that.<BR/><BR/>On the other counts, I still believe that one allowing for others to have their positions, rather than imposing one's positions / stringencies upon others, is something positive, which IMHO outweighs tznius concerns. As well as the other points I made about whose responsibility this should be, and the over-focus on tznius, etc.<BR/><BR/>I'll try to correct the post. I'm having gmail issues so I might have problems doing this.joshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-11051588419927337442008-01-28T14:46:00.000-05:002008-01-28T14:46:00.000-05:00I had a completely different image of what these o...I had a completely different image of what these offending photos would be. I had imagined 6 foot heads gracing a corner store with very luxurious sheitels, with a bright backing (maybe orange, pink, or yellow).. . . more like the lingere store in the mall that I try to avoid when I have to take my kids. <BR/><BR/>Instead, we have 16 by 20 photos of ladies wearing very nice sheitels and the display is so far from eye catching it seems like the owner could do more (like eliminate the glare. <BR/><BR/>Let's face it, practically every young woman in Flatbush is wearing a similiar sheitel (or at least that was my observation when I was there). I too was holding out on a verdict, but it seems that there is a bit of flexing muscles going on here.Orthonomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-10384344443745184722008-01-28T13:59:00.000-05:002008-01-28T13:59:00.000-05:00An Israeli leaves Israel for whatever reason. Perh...<I>An Israeli leaves Israel for whatever reason. Perhaps he is entirely secular, perhaps he is religious but not chareidi</I><BR/><BR/>You err. The wig-store owners are themselves Charedim. Read the letter. In fact the lady running the store is suporting her Kollel Avreich husband. This has nothing to do with secular vs. Charedi clashes and everything to do with Isreali apartheid supremacy denigrating all and every American TK.<BR/><BR/>It is the same ugly mentality that makes Yeshiva leit in Israel refer to S'fardic Jews as "Frenkim" while RAS has an heir apparent Moroccon son-in-law.The Bray of Fundiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08552912825252813495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-29619952320387465222008-01-28T09:13:00.000-05:002008-01-28T09:13:00.000-05:00The story with the water is told of R' Yisrael Sal...The story with the water is told of R' Yisrael Salanter (see <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/2tb5co" REL="nofollow">here</A> for example, also told by Rabbi Rakeffet in <A HREF="http://www.yutorah.org/showShiur.cfm/719276/Rabbi_Aaron_Rakeffet-Rothkoff/2006-01-16_Vilna" REL="nofollow">his shiur</A> (about 55 minutes into the audio)).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-63579459998815931302008-01-28T08:06:00.001-05:002008-01-28T08:06:00.001-05:00yaak, chaim berlin does not represent "the communi...yaak, chaim berlin does not represent "the community" there. If you know that area its extremly mixed and contains a diverse group of Jews. <BR/><BR/>In fact, JUST AROUND THE CORNER on the same block as the wig store is a Lubavitch Shul/Center. <BR/><BR/>There is a large modern orthodox population there, as well as yeshivish, as well as Israeli and sefardik, and syrian. <BR/><BR/>It's one thing if the whole community (like Bnei Brak) leaned ONE way and this guy opened shop in the middle of the town. But its not like that at all. <BR/><BR/>I think if these guys feel the standards of the community have dropped, they should consider leaving to Monsey or Lakewood, where they CAN control what the shop owners do. <BR/><BR/>PS - Excellent Post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-89575887649938790702008-01-28T08:06:00.000-05:002008-01-28T08:06:00.000-05:00I beleive the gadol with teh water and the maidser...I beleive the gadol with teh water and the maidservant was the chofetz chaim, but I certainly cannot give you a source.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-30460381706151948062008-01-28T03:54:00.000-05:002008-01-28T03:54:00.000-05:00From probably knowing less about the case than you...From probably knowing less about the case than you do, it appears at first glance that both are at fault - the store-owner for not being more sensitive to the tastes of the community - and the Yeshiva for not being sensitive to the needs of the store-owner and causing unneeded Mahloket.<BR/><BR/>As far as the "incredible focus on tznius" that you claim is counterproductive, I think that it really depends on the community and the people involved and how it's done. Every community has its own red lines when it comes to Tzeni'ut (which is why a picture that you may not think as pritzus would be pritzus to some others - especially to a single Yeshiva Bachur who is learning all day long). To impose the same level of Tzeni'ut upon everyone would be counterproductive. But, for each commnunity to increase their level of Tzeni'ut by a certain degree is always a good idea. This type of general "Be more careful" approach has its downsides, but the hope is that everyone knows what they need to improve on, so they will act on it. If certain people need more specific guidelines tailored to them, they can talk to a rav or rabbanit.yaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08179304707239865515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-77290308256043257162008-01-28T03:04:00.000-05:002008-01-28T03:04:00.000-05:00interesting point about the context of him being a...interesting point about the context of him being a yored<BR/><BR/>"This is one reason I am so thankful to live in Kew Gardens Hills . . ."<BR/><BR/>true that KGH is not flatbush, but KGH is not exactly what it used to be either.Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-11801513153676868032008-01-28T01:54:00.000-05:002008-01-28T01:54:00.000-05:00I just yelled out a sarcastic blood-curtling screa...I just yelled out a sarcastic blood-curtling scream.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com