tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post7598557756868859247..comments2024-03-05T21:22:43.426-05:00Comments on parshablog: The Rabbi, the Priest, and the Quarterbackjoshwaxmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03516171362038454070noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-40823190886103365082009-06-21T10:27:25.005-04:002009-06-21T10:27:25.005-04:00This is a fascinating look at how a story has chan...This is a fascinating look at how a story has changed. I've seen similar techniques used tin other circumstances (for example, when creationists quote-mine, trying to figure out who quoted from whom, since they almost never go back to the original source material). This is however, the first I've seen it applied to an inspirational story.<br /><br />I do wish there were an English word for this sort of technique. If there is one, I don't know it.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00637936588223855248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-55821853542793053212009-06-19T10:17:54.217-04:002009-06-19T10:17:54.217-04:00Thank you for exposing this, Josh.Thank you for exposing this, Josh.DKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03266121991724292663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-40966034531772391852009-04-30T22:40:00.000-04:002009-04-30T22:40:00.000-04:00interesting example. it certainly sounds to my ear...interesting example. it certainly sounds to my ear like a metaphor, and intended as such, but i can see how people could run with it. i don't know any way of proving or disproving it. people sometimes do symbolic things.<br /><br />even so, it seems strange people in general would bother carrying it all the way over in order to toss it in. and with tefillin and with one parallel for women i have seen, shabbos candle-sticks, i wonder that they would not have simply pawned them in order to better build their new life.<br /><br />kt,<br />joshjoshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-31429781167103229962009-04-29T20:26:00.000-04:002009-04-29T20:26:00.000-04:00Good one!
I especially liked the debunking of th...Good one! <br /><br />I especially liked the debunking of the Houston bus story.<br /><br />Keep up the good work.<br /><br />"Also, sometimes stories begin in a way where it is quasi-evident they are made up, to illustrate a point, but as the story spreads, it morphs, and people misunderstand elements of it, including whether it is a true incident."<br /><br />I would like to nominate for examination the tale going around that Yidden emigrating to America threw their tefillin overboard in NY harbor (female counterpart - they through their sheitlech overboard) (ch"v). It may have not been meant literally originally (at least not on a large scale), but over the years has increasingly been taken so by people. Is there any evidence that anyone ever did such things?Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-22171657959537824972009-04-26T07:28:00.000-04:002009-04-26T07:28:00.000-04:00thanks!
I'll check it out.
kt,
joshthanks!<br />I'll check it out.<br /><br />kt,<br />joshjoshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-42801038302992739872009-04-26T07:17:00.000-04:002009-04-26T07:17:00.000-04:00http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/731249...http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/731249/Rabbi_Nathan_Kamenetsky/From_Kovno_to_N.Y._to_Bayit_Vegan:_A_Message_to_the_RIETS_Israel_Kollel_(5769)<br /><br />it can be heard at the above link starting at the 55:17 mark<br /><br />actually it shows that there are inspiring stories which are factual and we really don't need to invent nonsenseShimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00161801089483717975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-2910657106639809852009-04-26T06:45:00.000-04:002009-04-26T06:45:00.000-04:00Quite convincing analysis.
At the same time there...Quite convincing analysis.<br /><br />At the same time there is a slightly similar story about R' Yaakov Kaminetzky which may or may not have served as a kernel.Shimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00161801089483717975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-65973766520392403582009-04-26T06:44:00.000-04:002009-04-26T06:44:00.000-04:00thanks!
girsology is a word i made up and use. yes...thanks!<br />girsology is a word i made up and use. yes, that is basically it: considering girsaot, how they could have diverged, and what the most likely version is.<br /><br />kol tuv,<br />joshjoshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-77719203374458879012009-04-26T04:45:00.000-04:002009-04-26T04:45:00.000-04:00that's quite a research project and i'll agree wit...that's quite a research project and i'll agree with your conclusions. one Q - what's girsology? the science of differentiating between 'girsot'? <br /><br />nice one!hubscubshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10197388364331929686noreply@blogger.com