tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post5537089410096205282..comments2024-03-05T21:22:43.426-05:00Comments on parshablog: Did the Chazon Ish violate לֹא תַעֲמֹד עַל-דַּם רֵעֶךָ? Did Chazal?joshwaxmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03516171362038454070noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-88255246659175833842009-07-02T23:20:59.714-04:002009-07-02T23:20:59.714-04:00Physician meets Rabbi. Comes out and says he was i...Physician meets Rabbi. Comes out and says he was impressed with the Rabbi's knowledge in his field. The Talmidim do the rest.<br /><br />Stories are unreliable. Stories about Gedolim are especially unreliable, because the story-tellers have an agenda.<br /><br />The alleged story of the physician should be seen against the background that most Rabbis nowadays are ilitterate. After meeting one that was not, the physician was surprised.<br /><br />The objective fact is that the Torah world has not contributed a thing to any field of Science. The <b>lack of knowledge</b> needs to be accounted for. I suggest that the stories are to cover up the collective shame.madaralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12464817724312275528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-77992273164743487322009-07-02T15:06:10.906-04:002009-07-02T15:06:10.906-04:00Moshe:
sorry, i should have included a link to the...Moshe:<br />sorry, i should have included a link to the post this was a follow-up to. in <a href="http://parsha.blogspot.com/2009/06/is-it-important-how-chazon-ish-knew.html" rel="nofollow">that first post</a>, i discussed just this:<br />http://parsha.blogspot.com/2009/06/is-it-important-how-chazon-ish-knew.html<br /><br />there, i note what Mississippi says above, that we have testimony from his student Rav Nadel that in fact he did read medical journals. and in the comment section, that Rav Gifter said the same thing.<br /><br />kt,<br />joshjoshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-7122153306508944482009-07-02T13:54:35.132-04:002009-07-02T13:54:35.132-04:00>No one seems to have seen him read medical boo...>No one seems to have seen him read medical books. <br /><br />First of all, that's irrelevant. Secondly, at least one person who knew him, R. Gedaliah Nadel, is on record saying that the Chazon Ish had read medical journals or books. Thirdly, the "medical knowledge the Chazon Ish had" is not at all quantified, and may well be overstated. There is a "story" that he "gave directions to a doctor." Now, firstly I don't know what kind of "brain surgery" there was before the Chazon Ish died (1953), but that could be my chisaron. But even if in essence the story is true, it meant that the Chazon Ish was conversant with neurology. If the Chazon Ish was illiterate and lived outside of civilization, I would agree that it would be unexpected and amazing. But the Chazon Ish was neither illiterate nor did he live apart from civilization.Mississippi Fred MacDowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02734864605700159687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-21583553251112493562009-07-02T12:42:44.295-04:002009-07-02T12:42:44.295-04:00Hi Josh,
Just wondering, how do you explain the ...Hi Josh, <br /><br />Just wondering, how do you explain the medical knowledge that the Chazon Ish had? Like giving directions to a doctor how to do brain surgery, and other medical knowl;edge that he had? Was it from Ruach Hakodesh? From learning Gemara? Or from reading medical books? No one seems to have seen him read medical books. <br />And no one reported that there were medical books in his house. <br /><br />Some of my friends say that just like the chazon Ish knew this, so too chazal. How would you respond?<br /><br />MosheAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-38121534347314484982009-07-01T22:24:14.745-04:002009-07-01T22:24:14.745-04:00good point, and you are right.
in part, it fits i...good point, and you are right.<br /><br />in part, it fits into the broader nonsensical "battle" of Chazal knowing science, but i do have a game plan, to transition from this to a discussion of Rav Wosner's grandson and tzadik gozer. though i forgot about it until this moment.<br /><br />but you are right.<br /><br />kt,<br />joshjoshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-72876856608550770132009-07-01T22:18:57.179-04:002009-07-01T22:18:57.179-04:00With all due respect, I don't understand why a...With all due respect, I don't understand why a smart person like you is wasting your time with idiots, talking about stupidity. Anyone who says the Chazon Ish could cure cancer is first of all stupid, and second of all being mevazeh a gadol beyisrael. Do you think for even a second that if the Chazon Ish could save lives he wouldn't do it? These idiots think they are building the Chazon Ish up but they are really turning him into an evil person, who is willing to let people die needlessly. But why waste your time with these foolish people?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com