tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post108112935061887523..comments2024-03-05T21:22:43.426-05:00Comments on parshablog: Kol Chamirajoshwaxmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03516171362038454070noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-85983812558830493062007-03-11T23:08:00.000-04:002007-03-11T23:08:00.000-04:00he has.look at old girsaot and you'll see only one...he has.<BR/><BR/>look at old girsaot and you'll see only one mentioned. e.g.<BR/><BR/>"כל חמירא דאיכא ברשותי דלא חזיתיה ודלא בערתיה לבטיל ולהוי כעפרא דארעא"<BR/><BR/>or:<BR/>[יא] אף־על־פי שביטל את החמץ בלילה לאחר הבדיקה, מכל־מקום גם ביום לאחר ששרף אותו יחזור ויבטלנו בנוסח כל חמירא וכו' כדלעיל. אלא שמוסיף, דחזיתיה ודלא חזיתיה, דביערתיה ודלא ביערתיה וכו'.<BR/>http://www.temani.co.il/asp/index.asp?id=176&lvl=id&tbl=t<BR/><BR/>And especially see here:<BR/>http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:Vldg0Aj8r0oJ:www.betmidrash.com/articles/132.doc+%D7%93%D7%97%D7%96%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%94+%D7%9B%D7%9C+%D7%97%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%90&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=20&gl=us<BR/>"כל חמירא וחמיעא דאיכא ברשותי (דחזיתיה ודלא חזיתיה) דחמיתיה ודלא חמיתיה דביערתיה ולא ביערתיה ליבטל ולהוי הפקר כעפרא דארעא"<BR/><BR/>where they put the alternate girsa in parentheses.<BR/><BR/>That is, initially, there developed two girsaot side by side. either because both were printed in one siddur, one in parentheses, as in this last link or someone combined two known girsaot, they end up with a combines nusach which is INDEED a redundancy.<BR/><BR/>His point is that you should NOT be saying both, because it is redundant.joshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589564.post-7927380510412720492007-03-11T22:47:00.000-04:002007-03-11T22:47:00.000-04:00But your Dr. professor hasn't explained the seemin...But your Dr. professor hasn't explained the seeming redundency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com